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Has anyone tried Accupuncture to stimulate the vagus nerve? I read about a double blind study that accupuncture seems to have a positive effect. Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately) I can’t tell when I have an episode of AF so have to rely on my Apple Watch to check what is happening.

Has anyone had a positive experience with alternative medicine?

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Spiritji

I feel acupuncture has been good for me but what really works to reset the parasympathetic nervous system is a dip in the sea. I go in very slowly as have permanent Afib. Stand for a long time half way.......then head under.......some websites say just cold water on the face can stimulate the vagus nerve.

Lots online....found this.......(still must take care with the sea us afibbers but I do it year around)

The bottom line is that regular use of cold water immersion triggers the Vagus nerve, the largest component of the parasympathetic nervous system. This results in a relaxation response, resetting of the abdominal organs to a resting state, and feelings of well-being.

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CDreamer in reply to Spiritji

So good! We no longer live near the sea and anyway the pollution levels in the nearby coast completely put me off but I continue instead with cold shower - 20 secs warm water - 20 secs cold water.

I also do a bit of self administered energy medicine and the 3 thumps most mornings - K27 - helps relax chest (sore point just under collar bone) tap or rub; thymus - sternum - immune system; spleen meridian - bottom of rib cage - aids digestion and clearing of toxins.

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CDreamer

The point on the wrist known as Heart 7 is a good one to hold or apply an Acupressure seed for calming vagus, anxiety and palpitations.

I occasionally see an Acupuncturist but used all of the Energy Medicine techniques at one time or another to a greater or lesser degree. I was SO grateful last Nov that there was an Acupuncturist on board who cured my seasickness in one session + teaching me how to apply and use Acupressure seeds.

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Ppiman

Over the years, I've had many experiences with these "alternative therapies" as I am always willing to try new things, despite my scepticism at their irrationality. All have proved often costly and all have done nothing. I haven't tried acupuncture, however. I have not read any studies that show it to be more effective beyond placebo, but I would definitely try it if you feel it might help.

Steve

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108cat in reply to Ppiman

This study found 'the antiarrthythmic efficacy of acupuncture to be similar to that of amiodarone .... using the Neiguan point (P6) of the heart meridian.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

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Ppiman in reply to 108cat

Thanks for posting that. It's a surprise that no other studies seem to exist on the internet following the successful outcome of this one. The comparison with amiodarone was poorly explained, I felt, but the reductions seemed impressive.

Steve

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johnkeithdowning

bartsaf.com/r/36885816?m=dd... may interest you

John

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